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the oldest and strongest human emotion

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fear and the oldest and strongest type

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when we were children our parents told

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us that monsters didn't exist

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but we were sure that something was

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane my

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name is lon strickler

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join me as i examine unexplained

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creatures

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strange manifestations and remarkable

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realities

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory but for

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new knowledge of the supernatural come

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on board as we begin

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio

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i'm your host lon strickler and i thank

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you for joining me here on the

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paranormal king

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radio network now before i introduce my

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i want to mention a recent account

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this count was forward to me by the

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a couple weeks ago last year i was

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backpacking with my brother in the

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mountains of west virginia

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to get to our destination we had to

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drive for about two hours

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up a very long and deep ditched road

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after reaching the mountain

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we got we got out all our gear and uh

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started on our hour-long hike into the

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our destination was at the edge of a

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small lake behind us was a long path

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back to the you know back to the car

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which was covered

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by fallen trees and thick brush the area

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was surrounded by high jagged cliffs

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now after about an hour of resting we

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set up camp

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and started a fire uh we proceeded to

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cook as the sun set over the large rock

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wall

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across a lake from us just after the sun

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went down

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is when the strangeness began every half

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hour so my brother

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would hear what he said were soft

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footsteps coming from the trail behind

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i was really tired and kept blowing it

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off as a joke however

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as the night passed on he refused to

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stop talking about what he was hearing

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i told him to shut up because i was

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tired of hearing it

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at around 11 p.m the situation became

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more bizarre

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i had nodded off with my hand head

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propped up on a log

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then suddenly a large crash could be

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heard from across the lake

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my brother and i both got to our feet

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grabbed our shotgun and 44 magnum

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and walked to the edge of the lake to

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see if we could spot what had made the

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black night we decided to go back and

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we both thought it must have been a

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loose boulder that had fallen off the

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that was until my brother told me to

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stop in an abrupt whisper

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look there he said pointing towards the

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ridge to our left

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it was then that i realized my brother

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roy was hearing things all night long

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about a hundred yards away from us in

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the tree line was a figure

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that looked to be at least 10 foot tall

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with glowing golden eyes

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now paralyzed with fear my brother and i

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watched the large figures swayed back

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never taking its eyes off us

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let's get the f out of here my brother

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yelled while shooting around

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from his 44 mag into the lake at this

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the figure stopped and stared its eyes

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seemed to get larger and brighter then

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stoking the fire as fast as we could not

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adding stay up all night taking turns

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after an hour or so we heard a faint

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the wrestling then stopped when all of a

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sudden this thing roared out in the most

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terrible scream that i ever heard

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we grabbed our guns of gear it was time

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to leave we both started to sprint into

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the darkness with our

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lights turned off we ran into the woods

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were out of breath and stopped we turned

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on our lights to find a path and listen

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it was moving up towards us we could

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hear the pounding of the footsteps and

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branches snapping

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this time the light stayed on as we ran

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tripping over obstacles until we reached

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the car the two of us threw our gear

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and locked doors behind us my brother

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was shaking from fear and fumbling with

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just says he's got the key in the

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ignition a loud screamed the creature

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blasted from the darkness

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he started the car and gunned it

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i don't know what that thing was all i

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can say is i'll never return those woods

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to find out

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now the witness um you know i was i

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finally was able to talk to the witness

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uh after about a week or so from the

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information i was given i believe the

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of monongahela national forest possibly

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uh by the way i i believe it may have

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but there have been historical reports

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of both in that general area

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so let's get started tonight's guest is

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rita louise who is a medical intuitive

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and author

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really is the founder of the institute

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of applied energetics

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and the host of just energy radio

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she is a naturopathic physician

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and a 20-year veteran in the human

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potential field

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her unique gift as a medical intuitive

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and clairvoyant illuminates enlightens

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her work

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she has written several books including

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the latest title stepping out of eden

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she has also produced a number of

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feature lane video as well as video

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dr louise has a degree in naturopath

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and a phd in natural

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health counseling she also has also

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received the distinction of

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reeking master and certified

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hypnotherapist

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soulhealer.com

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serea thanks for joining me thanks for

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having me lon how are you doing

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pretty good we haven't talked in a while

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in a long while but i do see your stuff

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on facebook so you know

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there are things that i hate about

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facebook and then there's the part where

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it's like you can kind of keep

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vicariously keep up with people

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you know by just watching your feed you

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yeah that is kind of what one of the

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only good things about

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facebook i guess um now can you uh tell

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my listeners how you start on the road

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to the medical physical

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um so growing up there was a tv show

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called the amazing crescent

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um and then another tv show called the

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sixth sense so not the movie but a tv

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series that featured gary collins who

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was a college professor

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who had esp and i just thought that this

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this between those two shows that it was

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just beyond fascinating and i wanted to

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know what that was all about

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and so moved from reading books on

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psychic abilities and stuff like that

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um you know and as i like to say and i

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him red and red and red and red and red

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and red and was getting pretty smart

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and uh finally found the berkeley

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psychic institute

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and studied with them and discovered

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that i had been very psychic

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my whole life and when i finished

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uh taking that training one of the

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like you know everybody has their own

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thing that they vibrate with you know so

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some people talk to dead people

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some people are really good with past

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lives they're looking at your contracts

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reading your acacia records you know for

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looking at people's bodies and telling

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them what's wrong

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is something i'm very good at and so i

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uh because the first question people

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well what can i do about it and i had

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uh so went back to school to get a

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degree as a naturopath

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and it which is a holistic physician so

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they don't work with

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uh prescription drugs but more with

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and dietary changes and nutrition um and

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got a phd in natural health counseling

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interesting well we're kind of on the

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wavelength there i suppose i you know i

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i was an intuitive when i was eight

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years old and you know he kind of stuck

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i never really dwelled on it be honest

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with you but it was um

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you know it's something i've always had

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you know kind of uh gotten a little

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better as i've gotten older

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i can i can only really sense energy

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spiritual energy and uh occasionally i

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if someone has an issue possibly

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so what you do is quite interesting to

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well i'll share a quick story and this

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way before i like found out i was

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um you know but in hindsight it was like

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huge psychic moment which had would

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happen to me all the time and i didn't

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i didn't know that what i would do these

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i was like 20 years old and in the

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office next door it was a lab there was

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this guy who was my friend we were about

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the same age and then his

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manager who is older i'll just say that

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you know older and

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he drank tab and i drank tab and so

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every day at three o'clock we would go

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down my friend and i would go down and

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get a soda and i would get bring him

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back a soda

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a tab and that was pretty much our

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relationship i'd say hi but we never

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like talked or anything

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and so he didn't come into work one day

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you know no big deal

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so the next day i went into the lab to

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say good morning to everybody

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and so this is coming from like a 20

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year old perspective and so i hope no

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one's offended by how this comes out but

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you know and so he had like a really

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good comb

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over happening but you could see

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like on his head that he had a little

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round band-aid

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on the top of his head and so i thought

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that he had like maybe had a zit up

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there

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and it had gotten like kind of red and

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[\h__\h] so he put one of those little

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round band-aids on top so you wouldn't

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have to look at it because you know it

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wasn't that great of a comb over

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and so that was what was going on in my

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cognitive mind because it's kind of sick

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most of the time

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and i wa and and i walked over to the

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man and i crossed my arms and i looked

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him in the face and i said

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well where were you yesterday having

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them check for a brain tumor

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and his face turned white and he turned

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around and walked out of the room and

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i had no idea what was going on except

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every hair on my body was standing on

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end and i had this electric current

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going through my body

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and i went back to my desk and my friend

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his assistant

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ripped me the riot act because the

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the manager thought that he had told me

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what was going on but i didn't know

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you know and so like in hindsight that

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was like a pretty powerful like

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psychic medical intuitive thing but in

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the moment

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i i i would never have called myself

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psychic or having a psychic thing

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because i wasn't psychic yet

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so stepping out of eden is it's a

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fascinating book

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it's a lot to it now that being said

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in your opinion are humans and involved

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species

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are an amalgamation of

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other life forms as an engineered

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species

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i firmly believe that humanity

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as we see it today is an engineered

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species

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but my feeling is is that all life on

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earth

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has been manufactured you know that

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evolution

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were

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some bouts of evolution but not in the

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way that they

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want you to think based on accepted

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scientific

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theory because it just doesn't work

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right yeah these are i've always

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been a strong evolutionist and you know

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i i just can't buy into the creation

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theory but you know what

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it kind of goes to my next question you

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discuss progressive creationism in your

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book

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now how is this any different than

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intelligent design which

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i'm starting to buy into as

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i mean intelligent design makes the

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assumption

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that there is a

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pushes i i don't really have a really

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good definition for it

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you know but that there's an energy that

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compels us to grow and change

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um i mean i was a hardcore evolution

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person i mean i was all about it

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all about it and um but in my

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research and when you take a step back

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well actually in in my last book uh et

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chronicles

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one of the things that i uncovered

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was the presence of extraterrestrials

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on the earth and being part of the

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terraforming of the planet

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right you know and so if they were here

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from all the way back then then why are

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we so special that they only interfered

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in the genetic engineering

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of us right you know

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and so i'm just kind of looking at the

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evidence that i have

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uncovered and going you know i think it

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is very possible

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and it makes it so that i mean there are

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a lot of missing links

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did we get eyes how did flowering plants

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appear you know there isn't anything in

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the fossil record

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to show this gradual process that just

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kind of

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appears and no one knows why you know we

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have these major

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extinction events and then the next

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group of

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animals that come back aren't lesser

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beings they're more evolved beings which

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doesn't make any sense

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and it happens very quickly and they

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can't explain it

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and if you can't explain something or

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you try to do flips and spins to make

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the square peg fit in the round hole

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well maybe you shouldn't try to put the

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square peg in the round hole

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well i definitely believe there was some

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type of influence i mean um now what we

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were influenced by

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were these some not type of non-human

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beings or was it

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uh a non-corporal

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intelligence of some type do you believe

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that

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ancient men physically interacted with

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what they considered

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well yes i mean you know but

436
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you know when we sit there and use the

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word god

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in the western world we end up with a

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lot of confusion because

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most people associate god

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with the omnipotent creator that

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underlies everything

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in our universe you know regardless of

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your definition of that

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you know and the characters that we find

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in mythology

447
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you know one of the things that i have

448
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uh

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talked about is you know when we think

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of god you know when we think of the

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biblical god

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you know that character the creator of

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the universe

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you know there is the notion that god is

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omnipotent

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you know but what does that imply that

457
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means that

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god you know with a wiggle of his nose

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or a knot of his head or the snap of a

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finger

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can create and manifest whatever he

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wants

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i like to use

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uh the character q from star trek next

465
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generation

466
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q was truly omnipotent he'd snap

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his fingers and there would be mariachi

468
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band and he'd

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wave his hand and the enterprise would

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be

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you know hundreds of thousands of light

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years away and he'd like make a galaxy

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and you know he would do all this stuff

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and it was

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immediate and instant instantaneous you

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know when we look

477
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at mythology we have these stories of

478
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the gods flying around in aerial

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chariots we have them using weapons

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against each other that were built by a

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different group of gods the master

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builder group

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um you know so we find these things that

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are

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more human-like you know and i hate to

486
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use

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you know but corporeal you know tied to

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corporeal beings

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then we find to anyone that

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could possibly be omnipotent i mean why

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would they need a weapon

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why would they need a chariot they could

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snap their fingers and go to wherever

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they wanted

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well you know this goes back to a theory

496
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i have which you may very well believe

497
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in that our human descendants

498
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have evolved to a state where they can

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actually travel back

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to our current time in order to change

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history

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thus saving us from ourselves do you uh

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do you buy into that any

504
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i think that it is a possibility

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you know i mean we don't really know you

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know

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what we're basing or what i based my

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material on

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is you know what i find in the mythic

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record

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and what i find in the archaeological

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record

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um and so there isn't anything

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to support it

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from a narrative standpoint but

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is it possible that that's where there's

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these people come from where these

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characters come from

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it's entirely possible you know so i'm

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not going to

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negate it or pooh-pooh it because we

522
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don't know

523
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you know there's so much that we don't

524
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well i'm gonna i'm gonna state something

525
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i don't know how which how you're gonna

526
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take this

527
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but over the years

528
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you know i've been looking into a lot of

529
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this summer type subjects as far as uh

530
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how civilizations were developed and

531
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such and so on

532
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because you know there's just no

533
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archaeological record for a lot of what

534
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really happened

535
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and uh how things developed to points

536
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even even in the modern world i mean our

537
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technology has just increased

538
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so much over the just the past century

539
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um i i have it on occasion

540
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and had visions of

541
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these of our of past civilizations

542
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and things developing that i would have

543
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never

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thought of quite honest with you and it

545
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gets me thinking and wondering

546
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how a lot of that a lot of what has

547
00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:03,039
happened in the historical record

548
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actually did happen if

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and if uh you know archaeology

550
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uh as far as

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our advancement in uh

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i'm gonna say technology meaning

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education

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and knowledge of how to make things work

555
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is that kind of where you're going well

556
00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:31,679
not only that but

557
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um how things actually developed how we

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if we were given the technology of by

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something

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00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:42,840
um you know well i mean in the mythic

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record it tells us that the gods gave us

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everything

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to agriculture to metallurgy to

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weaving to everything

565
00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:58,960
you know and you read these stories and

566
00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:01,039
it's like well humanity was pretty

567
00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:03,200
dumb you know and then there's some that

568
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suggest and like you know again we don't

569
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know

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so it's as valid a theory as any that

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are out there

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that um the downed ufos

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is another way that these

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gods are giving us advanced technology

575
00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:24,640
you know so instead of interacting with

576
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:26,320
people you know landing on the white

577
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,840
house lawn kind of like

578
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:30,000
moses you know the interaction that

579
00:22:34,149 --> 00:22:31,440
moses had

580
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:34,159
um that they're just kind of dropping it

581
00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:36,000
off and leaving it for us

582
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:39,200
to access and utilize

583
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:41,120
and use that to move forward

584
00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:42,400
technologically

585
00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:45,039
you know and i think that's a valid

586
00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:46,000
conjecture

587
00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:47,600
i mean we can't prove it one way or the

588
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:49,440
other but

589
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:52,799
i i could i could see why

590
00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:55,600
you know in in the other stories they

591
00:23:01,669 --> 00:22:57,760
you know they're taught

592
00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:01,679
you know and i don't think you know

593
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:03,919
if i turned around and said you know i

594
00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:04,880
had these uh

595
00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:08,159
zeta reticuli people come and visit me

596
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:10,559
and they taught me this stuff and i want

597
00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:11,760
to share it with you

598
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:14,080
you know i know where i would end up oh

599
00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:15,840
yeah that's exactly what i'm trying to

600
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:17,120
say you know i

601
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:20,400
you know the these what i call visions i

602
00:23:23,190 --> 00:23:21,120
guess

603
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:23,200
are that's the easiest way of saying

604
00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:24,480
what they are

605
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:26,799
you know when i uh when i present them

606
00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:28,000
to my colleagues

607
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:31,440
and even people that read uh the blog

608
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:32,159
and such

609
00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:34,880
it i know i dropped them crazy by doing

610
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:36,559
that because

611
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:38,640
most people want to find what actual

612
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:40,320
physical evidence of some type

613
00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:43,360
or something that has been in some type

614
00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:45,039
of research

615
00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:46,960
but you know when you when you come off

616
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:49,520
a lot of this from the top of your head

617
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:52,400
or for something that you uh you know

618
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:54,240
i'm not saying i'm a prophet let's put

619
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:55,520
it that way

620
00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:57,520
but it does drop people nuts and you

621
00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:59,440
know it is hard to get it across to some

622
00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:00,480
individuals

623
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:03,679
about you know is this

624
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:06,720
the ability an ability i have that i can

625
00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:10,880
that i can uh sense that or see that

626
00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:13,840
and then the conundrum is trying to

627
00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:15,039
explain what i

628
00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:18,640
actually envisioned

629
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:20,559
that's always a challenging part you

630
00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:22,159
know but i'm going to kind of shift here

631
00:24:27,029 --> 00:24:24,159
you know because i talked about

632
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:27,039
the gods that are talked about in myth

633
00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:28,240
you know and to me

634
00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:31,679
the mythological gods seem like

635
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:34,720
there is at least some comporealness

636
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:37,039
to their nature that they had bodies and

637
00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:38,640
and that people saw them and

638
00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:40,480
interacted with them at some point in

639
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:42,080
time right

640
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:43,840
you know but then there is this and i'm

641
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:45,360
going to say whole other

642
00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:49,120
group of gods that people were

643
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:51,760
accessing during the ritual experience

644
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:52,320
you know

645
00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:55,520
and performing ritual and

646
00:25:01,830 --> 00:24:58,640
uh creating you know

647
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:01,840
which would be a group it would you know

648
00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:03,679
i mean this sounds so politically

649
00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:04,880
incorrect but i think

650
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:07,360
people get this image you know of a

651
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:09,440
group of native americans dancing around

652
00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:10,480
the fire

653
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:13,279
you know people in the west look at and

654
00:25:18,230 --> 00:25:15,520
it's like ah they're a bunch of heathens

655
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:18,240
but there was just something very deep

656
00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:20,480
and esoteric in what they were doing

657
00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:22,960
because they were creating ritual

658
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:25,679
in order to raise the vibration of the

659
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:26,559
community

660
00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:29,760
which would raise the vibration of this

661
00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:32,720
the shaman or the medicine men so that

662
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:33,679
they could move

663
00:25:38,390 --> 00:25:36,480
into a higher state of being and

664
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:38,400
interact with these

665
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:41,120
other worldly souls you know whether it

666
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:42,240
was uh

667
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:45,200
ancestors you know whether it was these

668
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:47,120
godly characters

669
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:50,320
um you know there's not a whole lot

670
00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:54,000
of information especially ancient you

671
00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:55,279
know

672
00:26:02,350 --> 00:25:58,799
little hesitant

673
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:02,360
on my believability meter um but the

674
00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:05,279
ethnographers who were documenting these

675
00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:06,640
rituals

676
00:26:12,549 --> 00:26:11,120
never asked what was the experience

677
00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:12,559
you know they just talked about them

678
00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:14,559
dancing around the fire

679
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:16,640
um but they would use they would go into

680
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:18,799
this ecstatic state

681
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:21,279
in order to access higher level

682
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:22,320
information

683
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:24,480
you know so when someone like yourself

684
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:25,679
or myself

685
00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:29,840
meditates and allows information to come

686
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:31,039
to us from

687
00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:34,480
our higher self from god from you know

688
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:37,760
some place um you know we

689
00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:41,919
are utilizing that same capability

690
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:44,960
as our ancestors except they were really

691
00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:46,640
good at it

692
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:49,360
oh yeah uh i mean do you believe that

693
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:49,919
maybe

694
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:52,880
modern humans will eventually need to

695
00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:54,240
reconnect with

696
00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:56,880
ancient tradition intuitiveness in order

697
00:27:01,110 --> 00:26:58,720
to survive

698
00:27:01,750 --> 00:27:01,120
yeah i mean i think we are going so far

699
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:01,760
off

700
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:08,240
you know i'm gonna say materialistic um

701
00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:11,360
and losing touch with ourselves losing

702
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:11,840
touch

703
00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:18,720
with i'm gonna say god you know

704
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:20,559
and i'm not really a religious person

705
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:22,080
but that higher

706
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:26,159
consciousness that we all can tap into

707
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:29,279
that we all can connect with um

708
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:30,720
you know and i think that that's part of

709
00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:32,480
the craziness that's going on

710
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:34,559
is that you know people aren't grounding

711
00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:35,760
people aren't

712
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:39,039
stopping and breathing and reconnecting

713
00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:42,399
with themselves you know to

714
00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:45,279
look at what's really going on and i'm

715
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:47,440
not making a judgment you know one side

716
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:48,399
or the other

717
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:51,520
but people are going crazy

718
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,720
yeah it's yeah it just you know even

719
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:56,480
the time when we were kids it just

720
00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:58,399
seemed so much different

721
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:01,679
uh so social wise but

722
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:05,200
you know and a lot of other things uh

723
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:07,120
it just seems like it's a more dangerous

724
00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:08,399
world out there and very

725
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:14,389
you know and the sad part is is that we

726
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:14,799
all

727
00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:21,440
live and be happy and feel secure

728
00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:24,640
and have a place to live and food to eat

729
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:26,559
and be able to interact with the world

730
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:27,760
around us

731
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:30,720
you know and there's just so much drama

732
00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:32,880
and so much disparity

733
00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:35,919
you know between people and

734
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:37,840
those that have and those that don't

735
00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:40,080
have you know that it's just becoming

736
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:41,840
more and more challenging and

737
00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:43,600
you know but when you don't have it

738
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:45,200
leaves you in a state of fear

739
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:47,360
and when you're in a state of fear

740
00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:48,640
you're not going to get kind of

741
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:50,480
metaphysical here for a second

742
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:52,720
your first chakra shuts down you know

743
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:54,880
because your first chakra is associated

744
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:56,880
with your survival energy

745
00:29:01,750 --> 00:28:59,600
and so you can't let go you can't

746
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:01,760
release your energy gets totally stuck

747
00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:02,480
in your head

748
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:06,320
it gets stuck in your body and

749
00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:08,799
it can make you kind of crazy like that

750
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:09,440
because

751
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:12,159
it's just it's not moving anywhere it's

752
00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:14,960
just rolling around in your head and you

753
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,679
yeah there's a whole huge dynamic maybe

754
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:19,440
i need to write an article on that that

755
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:21,200
might be kind of interesting

756
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:23,520
you know and this is one thing i do like

757
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:25,120
about social media though

758
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:28,240
you know it's you know you know

759
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:30,159
in a sense you can't really tell if what

760
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:32,080
you're reading is true but

761
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:35,840
overall i think people are more open to

762
00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:39,360
issues and

763
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:42,559
you start to read how other people are

764
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:43,039
living

765
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:45,840
how they're what they're experiencing

766
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:46,720
and

767
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:48,799
you know you have to come to the

768
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:50,000
conclusion

769
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,919
everybody's got real issues in this

770
00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:53,440
modern world

771
00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:57,279
and it's just not it's just not

772
00:30:02,070 --> 00:29:59,120
what it was you seemed like i said

773
00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:02,080
before like it was when we were younger

774
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:04,320
you know but i think some of the things

775
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:05,360
that get into

776
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:08,640
this whole dynamic is uh

777
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:12,320
electronics i think that's huge huge

778
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:14,000
i mean when we were kids it's like what

779
00:30:16,389 --> 00:30:15,840
did you do my mom kicked us out of the

780
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:16,399
house

781
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:18,640
like go play absolutely come back in

782
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:19,440
dark

783
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:23,039
go run around and burn off all that

784
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:23,919
energy

785
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:26,640
and you know and then come back before

786
00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:27,200
dark

787
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:30,320
for dinner and that would then that was

788
00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:30,880
it

789
00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:33,200
you know and so you weren't hanging on

790
00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:34,080
to all this

791
00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:37,039
energy and you could burn it off and you

792
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:37,440
know

793
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:40,880
there achieve more inner peace

794
00:30:44,950 --> 00:30:43,679
you know people don't have inner peace

795
00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:44,960
when your energy stuck

796
00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:48,080
it's just not possible you know it's

797
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:49,440
sitting in front of a computer or

798
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:50,960
sitting with you you know your face in

799
00:30:55,029 --> 00:30:51,840
your phone

800
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:55,039
all day just doesn't promote that it

801
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,640
doesn't promote people to read it

802
00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:58,559
doesn't promote people to go outside and

803
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:59,600
take a walk

804
00:31:02,789 --> 00:31:01,200
you know and that was i was talking to a

805
00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:02,799
friend the other day it's like

806
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:04,880
yeah it was a whole lot easier before

807
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:06,640
all the electronic stuff because there

808
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:09,360
wasn't anything else to do

809
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:11,600
that's exactly right that that is

810
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:13,039
exactly right

811
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:15,360
because you know i look at how it was

812
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:17,039
when i was let's say when i was

813
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:20,000
in school in high school then when you

814
00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:22,880
have kids you see how they

815
00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:26,320
how they live their life as children

816
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:28,320
and then you look at your grandchildren

817
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:29,840
and it you know it

818
00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:32,080
it progresses but it's not really

819
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:33,600
progression it's

820
00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:36,640
you're right electronics has so much

821
00:31:43,909 --> 00:31:39,440
involved i mean it influences so much of

822
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:48,950
so um do you think that modern humans

823
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:51,519
experience more psychological illness

824
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:03,110
hmm interesting question um

825
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:05,909
i mean my knee-jerk reaction would be to

826
00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:06,559
say

827
00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:10,720
no right um you know but then there

828
00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:14,559
are other factors that

829
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:21,509
uh bigger communities bigger cities

830
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:23,120
there's a lot more influence and

831
00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:24,000
pressure

832
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:26,559
you know there's what society brings to

833
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:27,360
the table

834
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:28,480
you know then there's the whole

835
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:30,399
medication thing that you have to kind

836
00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:31,760
of throw on the table

837
00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:33,519
and then there's you know the foods we

838
00:32:36,549 --> 00:32:35,760
eat and the air we breathe and the water

839
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:36,559
we drink

840
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:39,519
you know i mean i think all of that has

841
00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:41,760
to get put onto the table

842
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:44,559
which could add to people having

843
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:46,240
psychological issues but

844
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:49,360
is it really a true psychological issue

845
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:51,200
or is it something that's been created

846
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:52,960
because we haven't taken care of

847
00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:53,600
ourselves

848
00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:57,519
right right you mentioned something

849
00:33:04,549 --> 00:32:58,000
about

850
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:04,559
do you are you now when you say that you

851
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:06,320
you're you're talking about terraforming

852
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:07,360
as far as

853
00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:10,000
pam spermia are you talking about some

854
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:11,440
type of intellectual

855
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:16,240
life form or being causing

856
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:25,509
i mean i'm going to start with pants

857
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:26,320
burmea

858
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:28,480
right you know directed pants permia

859
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:30,720
that there was a group that actually

860
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:33,760
facilitated that um but then

861
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:36,960
as you read these stories so and i'm

862
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:39,279
going to use greek cosmology as the

863
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:40,000
example

864
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:43,120
but there was the war between zeus

865
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:46,720
and kronos that occurred um

866
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:50,399
and after that war

867
00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:52,960
there was another terraforming event

868
00:33:55,509 --> 00:33:53,840
that occurred

869
00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:55,519
you know so there was the initial and

870
00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:58,000
i'm going to say seeding of the planet

871
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:01,200
um but then at during

872
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:04,880
after this war that happened um

873
00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:07,360
basically the way the storyline reads is

874
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:08,159
that

875
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:10,320
you know their bones became the

876
00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:12,560
mountains and their hair became the

877
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,800
trees and the plants and their blood

878
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:16,399
became the water

879
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:18,960
you know and so that's one that's tied

880
00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:19,520
to this

881
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:22,639
event but then there's another parallel

882
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:26,560
or not parallel myth uh but narrative

883
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:30,480
where they went and like a bug went down

884
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:32,399
to the bottom of the water and pulled up

885
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:35,440
a little mud and then dry land formed

886
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:38,800
or they put a stick down into the water

887
00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:40,240
and pulled up a little mud

888
00:34:43,909 --> 00:34:42,800
and dry land formed and so there's this

889
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:43,919
secondary

890
00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:47,520
terraforming event that you also find

891
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:49,679
which seems like and there are

892
00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:51,280
characters and people

893
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:54,079
that are tied to this thing happening

894
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:54,720
and so

895
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:57,760
i do feel like um

896
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:01,040
you know it was consciously directed

897
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:04,640
at some point in time yeah

898
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:06,480
it seems that there very well may have

899
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:12,790
you know when you you read about how

900
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:13,280
many

901
00:35:20,069 --> 00:35:16,560
extinction cycles that have actually

902
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:20,079
happened on this on the earth yeah it is

903
00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:21,599
kind of mind-blowing

904
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:24,960
and and wondering how you know how

905
00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:27,119
we started started over from the

906
00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:28,079
beginning again

907
00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:32,240
how many times it had to happen and

908
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:34,960
what kind of other influence had been

909
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:36,960
involved with that

910
00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:40,480
uh you know are we ever going to be able

911
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:41,359
to

912
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:45,200
and especially

913
00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:48,640
you know it's involving life

914
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:50,560
well you know when you talk about

915
00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:52,160
humanity

916
00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:55,280
and i didn't realize this until i was

917
00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:57,200
researching this book

918
00:36:04,030 --> 00:36:02,390
you know so researchers will sit there

919
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:04,040
and they kind of talk about like

920
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:05,200
australopithecus

921
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:08,480
and you know homo robustus

922
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:10,320
and homo you know and all these

923
00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:11,680
different

924
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:14,720
characters you know in our lineage or

925
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:17,599
parallel lineages or whatever

926
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:20,640
and where it gets really interesting is

927
00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:21,760
that they make

928
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:25,040
these huge claims

929
00:36:31,270 --> 00:36:29,359
based on a piece of a jawbone a leg bone

930
00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:31,280
i mean i feel like and you know i

931
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:33,359
probably am exaggerating here

932
00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:36,480
but i feel like if you took all of the

933
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,280
bones

934
00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:39,440
that have been found you could probably

935
00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:40,960
put him inside a box

936
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:43,680
because it doesn't seem like there had

937
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:44,320
been

938
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:49,760
now you know when you talk about the

939
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:51,760
devonians i mean there was a

940
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:55,680
piece of a pinky and a tooth that was it

941
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:57,760
now the only reason i give them any

942
00:37:01,829 --> 00:36:59,119
credit at all

943
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:01,839
is they've been able to look at the

944
00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:04,240
genetic record you know the dna

945
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:07,359
that came out of those bones out of that

946
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:09,280
fossil record so they actually have

947
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:09,839
something

948
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:14,000
concrete to work with versus

949
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:16,800
you know it's a piece of a jawbone i

950
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:18,400
mean how can you recreate

951
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:21,280
an entire individual based on a piece of

952
00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:22,240
a jawbone

953
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:25,599
exactly but in turn

954
00:37:32,069 --> 00:37:28,800
we have this broad

955
00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:32,079
reaching and extensive and

956
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:36,000
very deep mythological record

957
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:39,200
that has been passed on generation to

958
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:41,359
generation to generation

959
00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:44,160
and they won't even look at it they

960
00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:45,680
won't consider it

961
00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:47,839
you know and it just has been pushed to

962
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:49,760
the side and poo-pooed and i'm like

963
00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:52,480
wait a minute i've written two books on

964
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:53,599
the topic

965
00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:56,480
and you have like one little baby box

966
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:58,560
and i'm only like skimming the surface i

967
00:38:02,870 --> 00:37:59,040
mean i

968
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:02,880
it just seems unreasonable

969
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:05,920
when there is just such a rich record to

970
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:06,240
just

971
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:09,599
ignore it in in lieu of a little box

972
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:18,390
baby box well that being said

973
00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:20,560
how much how much of the narrative in

974
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:22,480
the bible

975
00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:26,240
can be directly connected to

976
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:29,200
non-terrestrial influence for instance

977
00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:29,760
angel

978
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:34,079
contact massive destruction etc

979
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:37,839
um i mean where my area of specialty is

980
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:40,640
is looking at what's considered the

981
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:42,079
creation myth

982
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:45,040
right um and so although i'll make some

983
00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:47,200
commentary um

984
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:50,079
to more answer your question sure and so

985
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:50,560
when

986
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:54,400
you look at the book of genesis so from

987
00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:57,280
in the beginning up until the flood

988
00:39:01,990 --> 00:38:58,720
narrative

989
00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:02,000
that storyline is very consistent

990
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:04,400
with what you see around the world you

991
00:39:08,950 --> 00:39:06,480
know and i call that the global mythic

992
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:08,960
narrative it's the early myths

993
00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:12,400
and the you find the same stories

994
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:13,599
basically i mean they're

995
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:16,320
different but they're the same all

996
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:17,520
around the world

997
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:20,720
i was talking about

998
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:24,079
the terraforming event after the war

999
00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:27,119
you know and when i was working on

1000
00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:30,720
uh my last book et chronicles

1001
00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:36,230
well i wanted to look at the the seven

1002
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:38,079
days of creation story

1003
00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:40,880
you know and incorporate that because i

1004
00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:41,839
kept finding

1005
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:44,000
these stories that started with like in

1006
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:45,119
the beginning

1007
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:48,240
was void

1008
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:50,240
you know and it was this abyss and it

1009
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:51,839
was very consistent

1010
00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:56,160
so i kind of used that as my template

1011
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:58,960
you know but on the all right i have to

1012
00:40:03,829 --> 00:39:59,280
sit

1013
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:06,470
third day i think it's the third day it

1014
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:08,079
might be the fourth day so don't hold me

1015
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:10,000
to this um

1016
00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:13,119
you know god creates the plants and

1017
00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:15,440
trees

1018
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:18,560
you know of the earth right and then on

1019
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:19,680
the next day

1020
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:22,079
so the fourth day he puts the sun the

1021
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:22,960
moon in the cigar

1022
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:25,680
stars in the sky which you read and it's

1023
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:27,920
like okay but what about photosynthesis

1024
00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:29,760
because that really wouldn't work

1025
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,119
without it um you know so my

1026
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:35,280
initial thought was you know maybe they

1027
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:38,400
got the days mixed up you know

1028
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:40,000
i mean you could come up with a lot of

1029
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,240
different explanations of you know why

1030
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:44,880
the sun didn't go into the sky until

1031
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:45,680
after

1032
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:49,200
the plants until i started doing all of

1033
00:40:52,309 --> 00:40:50,000
this digging

1034
00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:52,319
and one of the things that i found was

1035
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:54,160
we have this war

1036
00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:57,200
we have this terraforming event and then

1037
00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:58,880
the next piece of narrative

1038
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:01,040
talks about and then the sun the moon

1039
00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:04,000
and the stars were put in the sky

1040
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:07,040
so weird as it may be

1041
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:13,109
so one of the things i talk about in

1042
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:14,400
stepping out of eden

1043
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:17,599
is the viewpoint of the myths

1044
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:19,680
and so in these early myths and these

1045
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:21,119
creation myths which go

1046
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:24,240
up to the flood the stories are all told

1047
00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:26,160
and i like to say from the viewpoint of

1048
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:28,160
the gods you know they're right there in

1049
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:30,000
the middle of the action so you know lon

1050
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:31,200
if you and i were

1051
00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:34,640
hanging out and you know doing whatever

1052
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:37,280
it would be you know well lon went and

1053
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:38,319
did this thing

1054
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:40,160
and you know then he went and did that

1055
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:41,760
thing and it would be

1056
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:44,240
you know third person but third person

1057
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:45,520
familiar

1058
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:47,040
you know because we're hanging out i'm

1059
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:48,800
just telling the story

1060
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:52,240
um but after the flood

1061
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:55,440
one there's no more global narrative

1062
00:42:00,390 --> 00:41:58,720
and so every culture starts creating

1063
00:42:03,190 --> 00:42:00,400
their own mythic record

1064
00:42:05,349 --> 00:42:03,200
for their culture but the viewpoint

1065
00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:05,359
changes it changes from the stories of

1066
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:06,319
the gods

1067
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:09,839
to the stories of men interacting with

1068
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:10,880
the gods

1069
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:13,520
you know and so i like using moses as an

1070
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,240
example

1071
00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:16,800
because you know moses goes and he

1072
00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:18,880
climbs up mount sinai

1073
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:22,079
and instead of like hanging out with god

1074
00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:25,680
um you know he is demure

1075
00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:28,319
and respectful and he takes his shoes

1076
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:29,040
off

1077
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:32,640
and there is this air of uh

1078
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:36,240
you know god is superior and i have to

1079
00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:39,920
you know be in awe of him and you see

1080
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:43,119
this major change you know so think of

1081
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:44,880
moses on the mountain

1082
00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:48,400
but that change is in all of the stories

1083
00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:50,720
you know now we're praying to the gods

1084
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:52,319
you know and we're asking them

1085
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:54,960
for their help and support and we're not

1086
00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:56,480
hanging out with them before we were

1087
00:43:01,349 --> 00:42:57,920
like hanging out with the gods

1088
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:01,359
now we're subservient to

1089
00:43:07,829 --> 00:43:04,560
some deity that

1090
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:07,839
is outside of our reach except for

1091
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:11,040
in the hands of a select

1092
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:14,480
number of individuals and so

1093
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:17,520
what you find is that you know

1094
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:20,640
people like moses uh you know i always

1095
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:22,640
like to throw in jason in the argonauts

1096
00:43:26,309 --> 00:43:23,520
you know jason

1097
00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:26,319
interacts with the gods right but it's

1098
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:27,280
very select

1099
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:30,240
individuals and it's not the gods

1100
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:31,280
hanging out with

1101
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:34,960
all of humanity um

1102
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:41,190
but there are a number of instances in

1103
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:42,720
the bible where

1104
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:45,200
you know god shows up but again it's

1105
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:46,400
very select

1106
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:50,400
individuals that he is uh

1107
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:52,480
dealing with right you know and then

1108
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:54,640
they talk about the angels but

1109
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:56,960
it's kind of like okay so are we really

1110
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:59,119
just talking about the lesser god

1111
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:00,560
you know because there were the chief

1112
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:02,800
gods and then there were lesser gods

1113
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:06,839
who had roles in all of these books as

1114
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:08,400
well

1115
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:13,280
angels much consideration

1116
00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:14,880
i really hate to say that you know i'm

1117
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:17,119
not a religious person anyway i kind of

1118
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:19,920
i look at everything in on a historical

1119
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:21,599
basis basically

1120
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:24,720
and uh but until i started reading

1121
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:28,319
the books of enoch and the stories in

1122
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:30,560
the books of enoch and relationship the

1123
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:33,920
angels and and how that incorporates

1124
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:34,720
itself

1125
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:37,839
in the bible and the people in the bible

1126
00:44:43,109 --> 00:44:40,960
um there's

1127
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:43,119
really a historical story there

1128
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:49,750
yeah enoch was taken to the heavens

1129
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:52,400
to be with the gods and was educated by

1130
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:54,400
the gods i mean stories of

1131
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:58,400
humans or hybrid humans uh

1132
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:01,680
going and up to the heavens

1133
00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:05,440
is a fairly common not super common but

1134
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:07,200
a fairly common theme

1135
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:09,760
that you'll find in mythology you know

1136
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:11,359
so it's it's not

1137
00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:14,400
out of the ballpark of

1138
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:23,589
oh and i can't erath us you know there's

1139
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:24,720
a story that comes

1140
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:28,000
out of sumerian uh the

1141
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:30,960
epic of a rathas and he goes up to the

1142
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:32,400
heavens and

1143
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:35,760
interacts with anu the chief god of

1144
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,800
the anunnaki right um

1145
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,800
you know and it doesn't talk about him

1146
00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:42,240
being educated but

1147
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:45,440
he is taken up to the heavens um

1148
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:48,000
you know so is that a parallel kind of

1149
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:49,440
hard to tell

1150
00:45:54,150 --> 00:45:53,599
um you know there really aren't stories

1151
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:54,160
of

1152
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:56,640
people being taken to the heavens to be

1153
00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:57,680
taught

1154
00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:59,599
but i can't rule it out because there

1155
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:01,760
are a number of stories of people being

1156
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:03,200
taken up to the heavens to

1157
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:04,880
interact with the gods for one reason or

1158
00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:06,960
another all right

1159
00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:08,079
well you know i've always been

1160
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:11,599
fascinated with the egyptian

1161
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,560
dynasties in the history of egypt but

1162
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:16,800
you know as i've gotten older

1163
00:46:20,069 --> 00:46:18,960
i i've just wanted more you know you

1164
00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:20,079
know there there are

1165
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:22,400
every it seems like every year something

1166
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:24,720
new comes up as far as

1167
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:26,800
uh the history of egypt something's

1168
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:28,800
discovered or something's added or

1169
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:30,000
whatever

1170
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:33,280
but i i'm more interested in its

1171
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:34,560
connection

1172
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:37,599
to the bible like the the exodus is it

1173
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:39,359
fascinates me exodus

1174
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:43,280
because i think there's more egyptian

1175
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:46,319
influence in this uh

1176
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:48,560
than what's written in the bible and as

1177
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:49,599
far as the

1178
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:52,800
beginning of the egyptian civilization

1179
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:55,280
i i think it goes much much further than

1180
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:56,560
the record

1181
00:47:01,910 --> 00:46:59,920
and and may involve other empires that

1182
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:01,920
actually developed into the egyptian

1183
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:03,920
civilization

1184
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:12,069
polytheism in in the egyptian

1185
00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:15,680
religion and then that brief a mourner

1186
00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:18,240
period where there was

1187
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:22,880
monotheism and how that influenced

1188
00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:26,400
uh moses or the person who was

1189
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:30,400
known as moses i think there's a tie in

1190
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:32,240
there and i i i just

1191
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:35,040
you know i i make i try to make a quest

1192
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:35,760
to try to

1193
00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:38,319
figure out what what is actually going

1194
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:39,920
on there have been books written about

1195
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:40,640
this

1196
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,000
about certain uh pharaohs or

1197
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:46,640
family of pharaohs that may have

1198
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:48,000
actually been

1199
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:51,440
moses i mean even sigmund freud wrote a

1200
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:52,079
book about

1201
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:55,920
it it's it's just um

1202
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:57,359
i don't know what are your thoughts on

1203
00:48:01,349 --> 00:47:59,599
that i mean you talk about moses so what

1204
00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:01,359
are your thoughts on that

1205
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:07,910
i think a lot of i mean well

1206
00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:11,440
two things one i find studying

1207
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:13,839
egyptian cosmology really challenging

1208
00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:15,839
because the seat of power

1209
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:19,760
moved so many times in 3 000

1210
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:23,520
hard to i don't think

1211
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:26,400
anyone has written a book or i have yet

1212
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:27,520
to find it

1213
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:30,720
of this is where the culture was

1214
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:34,319
from a a god perspective you know

1215
00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:36,559
and and then it moved here and they

1216
00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:38,480
changed the name to this you know

1217
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:41,520
and so it's hard to even figure out you

1218
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:42,640
know

1219
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:44,800
okay so here's this pyramid text but

1220
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:46,720
where does it fit in the timeline you

1221
00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:49,440
know it's just very disjointed to me

1222
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:52,800
um but i but i love

1223
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:59,430
i think everybody loves you yeah it is

1224
00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:01,440
you know but then there's i think a

1225
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:02,960
whole level of whitewash

1226
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:05,280
that happens you know every so often

1227
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:06,720
you'll hear

1228
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:10,480
um you know like i'm pretty good friends

1229
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:12,400
with brian forrester you know

1230
00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:14,480
and i would make some when he and i were

1231
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:15,440
talking a lot

1232
00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:18,240
i would make some comment and he would

1233
00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:18,880
say

1234
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:21,040
oh but you know when you talk to so and

1235
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:23,280
so you know i don't remember his name

1236
00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:26,800
you know who was from an elder family

1237
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:28,400
you know it's like you get a totally

1238
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:31,040
different story of what the history is

1239
00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:34,559
and so have we just covered it over

1240
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:36,800
and just made up our own history for

1241
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:37,760
what's going on

1242
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:39,920
in egypt and don't want to listen to the

1243
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:41,119
local people

1244
00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:44,240
that have the indigenous story and i'm

1245
00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:44,960
going to give it

1246
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:48,160
a much an example that i know much

1247
00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:49,040
better

1248
00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:52,559
so um soccerwoman is in

1249
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:55,040
peru and so and i think anyone listening

1250
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:57,280
to your show has probably seen it's that

1251
00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:00,880
big wall where all of the stones just

1252
00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:04,000
fit together super perfectly you know

1253
00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:06,079
and you can't figure out how the heck

1254
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:06,559
they

1255
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:09,119
did it because it's like a jigsaw puzzle

1256
00:50:13,589 --> 00:50:10,480
with no instructions

1257
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:13,599
yep and so the

1258
00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:17,200
uh scientific line

1259
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:20,800
you know the historical line to

1260
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:23,599
how that was built was that 50 years

1261
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:25,440
prior to

1262
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:28,000
the spanish coming there that's when the

1263
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:30,400
native people built it

1264
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:32,720
and then somehow by the end of that

1265
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:33,760
period of time

1266
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:35,920
they lost all of their technology and

1267
00:50:38,549 --> 00:50:37,680
they couldn't and they couldn't do it

1268
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:38,559
anymore

1269
00:50:41,589 --> 00:50:40,480
but they only built it 50 years before

1270
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:41,599
the spanish

1271
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:43,920
but if you asked any of the indigenous

1272
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:44,720
people

1273
00:50:50,069 --> 00:50:47,839
who built it they say that it was there

1274
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:50,079
when they showed up to the land

1275
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:52,880
and that it was built by giants you know

1276
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:55,440
so it's kind of like

1277
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:56,880
all right so where did they get this

1278
00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:58,880
50-year thing you know

1279
00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:00,960
where did where did the west get this

1280
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:03,359
50-year thing they just made it up

1281
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:06,240
sure because it fits in their timeline

1282
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:09,599
and if it's in the bible timeline that

1283
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:12,079
you know everything started 6 000 years

1284
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:12,960
ago and

1285
00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:16,000
i mean you know we all know about

1286
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:17,599
gobekli tepi

1287
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:20,720
and they still kind of just push it to

1288
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:22,960
the side because they can't incorporate

1289
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:23,680
it

1290
00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:25,760
into anything you know and that was

1291
00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:27,920
built you know at least 10 000

1292
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:32,000
uh bc yeah that and that that's another

1293
00:51:37,109 --> 00:51:32,480
thing

1294
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:37,119
uh like it is so difficult to even

1295
00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:38,400
imagine

1296
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:41,359
that people back then had any type of

1297
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:43,359
technology

1298
00:51:48,390 --> 00:51:46,319
to be able to develop those type of that

1299
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:48,400
type of structures and such

1300
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:53,680
and you know the learned people

1301
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:56,000
will not come out and say oh yeah well

1302
00:52:00,950 --> 00:51:58,720
gt or somebody else came in and did it

1303
00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:00,960
it takes people that are those people

1304
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:03,040
who are open-minded enough

1305
00:52:06,870 --> 00:52:05,359
and not afraid to say things like you

1306
00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:06,880
said brian forster

1307
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:10,079
i mean he i mean his work you know

1308
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:13,359
in peru just unbelievable but it you

1309
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:13,920
know

1310
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:17,359
the reason why i always

1311
00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:20,240
was interested in archaeology you know

1312
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:21,359
you know it just it

1313
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:23,920
you need to be so open-minded about

1314
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:25,440
things because it just

1315
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:27,200
the record is just not there and you

1316
00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:28,640
talk about white watch

1317
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:30,960
well you know look at the uh the

1318
00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:32,160
egyptians it

1319
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:36,640
is so many times that they just

1320
00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:38,720
tried to erase the record of the

1321
00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:40,880
previous pharaoh

1322
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:44,079
and it takes you know in i i'm pretty

1323
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:44,960
sure

1324
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:48,640
there are more pharaohs or

1325
00:52:53,829 --> 00:52:51,040
leaders or such that we just have no

1326
00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:53,839
idea it existed

1327
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:56,720
but it's you're right i mean egypt egypt

1328
00:53:03,430 --> 00:52:59,040
history egyptian history

1329
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:03,440
and whatever influenced those people

1330
00:53:10,390 --> 00:53:06,880
over those millennia is just

1331
00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:10,400
a mind-blowing concept be quite honest

1332
00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:10,960
and that's

1333
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:13,920
the way i feel about it well and there's

1334
00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:15,520
this whole

1335
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:18,720
notion that life

1336
00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:21,839
didn't exist before writing you know and

1337
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:23,440
it's kind of like

1338
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:26,960
you know you'll appreciate this um

1339
00:53:33,510 --> 00:53:30,160
and so the earliest

1340
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:33,520
written document that

1341
00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:36,559
mentions a ghost was the epic of

1342
00:53:41,349 --> 00:53:37,520
gilgamesh

1343
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:41,359
right which was written about 2500 bc

1344
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:44,640
you know or at least was written

1345
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:48,960
down on a piece of paper 2500 bc

1346
00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:50,800
but how old you know so they're like oh

1347
00:53:54,549 --> 00:53:52,480
well the epic of the gilgamesh is from

1348
00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:54,559
2500 bc it's like well

1349
00:54:02,630 --> 00:53:59,040
no not really it was written down

1350
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:02,640
in 2500 bc it doesn't mean that they

1351
00:54:06,390 --> 00:54:04,960
came up with the story then

1352
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:06,400
you know and they and you know and you

1353
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:08,640
have to sit there and argue with people

1354
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:11,200
about you know the difference between

1355
00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:12,640
the actual date

1356
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:14,319
and the date that it was put on a piece

1357
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:15,760
of paper or

1358
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:18,319
stone or clay tablet or whatever you

1359
00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:19,760
want to put it on

1360
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:22,400
um which might be two totally different

1361
00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:23,119
things

1362
00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:24,960
you know and so we have this history and

1363
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:26,480
so we just assume

1364
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:29,920
that because the first piece of

1365
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:32,640
written evidence documented evidence is

1366
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:34,240
at a certain point in time

1367
00:54:41,349 --> 00:54:37,440
doesn't mean that the belief uh

1368
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:41,359
wasn't there long before that

1369
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:45,359
um now

1370
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:46,720
i'm gonna ask you a question that's a

1371
00:54:50,829 --> 00:54:48,640
little bit away from what we have been

1372
00:54:54,950 --> 00:54:50,839
talking about

1373
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:54,960
but this is about non-terrestrial

1374
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:58,400
craft travelers or

1375
00:55:02,230 --> 00:54:59,920
i believe for the most part

1376
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:02,240
interdimensional corporal

1377
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:06,000
beings i mean is it possible

1378
00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:10,880
that you know we see people see ufos

1379
00:55:18,309 --> 00:55:14,720
are these interstellar spacecraft

1380
00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:18,319
or are the are these

1381
00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:22,319
these craft more international

1382
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:25,599
uh craft that are actually

1383
00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:34,230
yeah and we don't know i mean it goes

1384
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:36,559
right along with the time traveler thing

1385
00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:38,079
i mean because they could be time

1386
00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:39,760
travelers themselves

1387
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:42,240
you know and this is how they get around

1388
00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:42,960
you know

1389
00:55:46,549 --> 00:55:45,680
until a ship lands on the white house

1390
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:46,559
lawn

1391
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:49,520
yeah or you know actually i'm going to

1392
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:50,559
take that back

1393
00:55:57,910 --> 00:55:53,680
until they release the documents

1394
00:56:01,430 --> 00:55:57,920
that share that bit of information

1395
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:01,440
we have a bunch of uh testimonial from

1396
00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:02,160
people

1397
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:04,400
yeah you know about their experiences

1398
00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:05,359
but you know

1399
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,799
they're crackpots and

1400
00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:10,559
and you can't believe anything that they

1401
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:12,079
say you know

1402
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:15,200
which is really sad um

1403
00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:17,680
you know and so i mean i think it's

1404
00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:19,200
interesting that we're waiting for

1405
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:20,559
something to come

1406
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:23,760
through official channels for us

1407
00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:28,000
to accept right

1408
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:31,040
yeah right that you're right uh

1409
00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:32,640
i don't believe that's ever gonna happen

1410
00:56:37,349 --> 00:56:34,640
unless it's there's a need

1411
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:37,359
to know situation where it has has to be

1412
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:39,599
disclosed somehow

1413
00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:41,760
well you know i think when some big ship

1414
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:42,799
you know one

1415
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:45,200
parks itself over a building you know

1416
00:56:48,549 --> 00:56:45,839
kind of like

1417
00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:48,559
independence day um there's not going to

1418
00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:49,440
be any way

1419
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:52,640
that they can cover that up yeah that'll

1420
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:52,880
be

1421
00:57:00,630 --> 00:56:58,950
you know i i i don't know how much you

1422
00:57:01,750 --> 00:57:00,640
know that i've been involved with this

1423
00:57:04,309 --> 00:57:01,760
uh

1424
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:04,319
the situation in chicago where people

1425
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:05,680
have been seeing these winged

1426
00:57:09,910 --> 00:57:09,040
humanoid beings uh i mean i've heard

1427
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:09,920
about that

1428
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:12,319
but you know i've just kind of gone hmm

1429
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:13,839
that's interesting

1430
00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:16,720
i mean i mean do you i mean have you

1431
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:17,280
seen one

1432
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:18,880
i mean that would be like the totally

1433
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:20,400
coolest thing well

1434
00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:22,240
you know the number of reports we have

1435
00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:24,240
received is just staggering

1436
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:27,520
and the witness testimony that we

1437
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:28,160
received

1438
00:57:33,030 --> 00:57:31,200
is just you know people don't have not

1439
00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:33,040
been embellishing on what they see

1440
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:34,880
they stick to what their original story

1441
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:36,079
is which is something

1442
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:39,280
that very rarely happens as far as

1443
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:42,480
crypto reporting you know

1444
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:43,760
but you know the thing that's happened

1445
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:45,920
that's fascinated me more than anything

1446
00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:47,920
about this whole situation is

1447
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:49,839
like where in the hell are these things

1448
00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:52,319
coming from you know i i've always had

1449
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:53,440
this thought

1450
00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:57,200
that cryptids bigfoot in particular or

1451
00:58:00,870 --> 00:57:59,359
other cryptids may be interdimensional

1452
00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:00,880
beings

1453
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:03,359
but they're corporal i mean they're

1454
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:05,440
flesh and blood beings

1455
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:08,559
as what people are reporting in chicago

1456
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:11,359
uh you know i'm gonna throw something

1457
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:11,839
out

1458
00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:14,960
just to kind of put in your mind so in

1459
00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:16,960
the mythic record one of the things that

1460
00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:17,760
we find

1461
00:58:23,910 --> 00:58:21,200
is that some of the gods had technology

1462
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:23,920
that gave them certain abilities so like

1463
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:25,760
freya for example

1464
00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:28,400
um had a feathered cloak and it allowed

1465
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:29,520
her to fly through the

1466
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:32,559
soar through the air like an eagle you

1467
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:34,079
know and so

1468
00:58:38,549 --> 00:58:36,400
it could be that they're not necessarily

1469
00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:38,559
cryptids and i'm not making commentary

1470
00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:39,920
one way or the other

1471
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:43,040
right but they're utilizing some form of

1472
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:43,920
technology

1473
00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:45,839
to give them the wings so that they can

1474
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:48,000
fly yeah

1475
00:58:51,190 --> 00:58:50,240
just so yeah yeah well that no that you

1476
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:51,200
know

1477
00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:54,400
i am open to all possibilities at this

1478
00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:55,359
point

1479
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:57,359
you know even though the sightings have

1480
00:59:01,670 --> 00:58:59,359
waned off so much

1481
00:59:03,109 --> 00:59:01,680
i mean i am going to be digging into

1482
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:03,119
this for

1483
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:04,480
wherever i'm afraid even though i wrote

1484
00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:06,960
a book about it i have no conclusions to

1485
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:08,640
it you know

1486
00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:11,200
so well and and it's almost impossible

1487
00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:13,200
when you're working in this area it's

1488
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:16,400
almost actually i'd rather people not

1489
00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:18,720
have a conclusion because

1490
00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:22,160
don't know

1491
00:59:29,670 --> 00:59:26,880
i hear grief about it

1492
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:29,680
people want me to give them my opinion

1493
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:31,680
as to what it is but

1494
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:33,200
you know i really don't want to do that

1495
00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:36,880
you know i'm leaving all options open

1496
00:59:40,069 --> 00:59:38,960
so well and i get the same grief it's

1497
00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:40,079
like yeah but you didn't

1498
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:41,760
you know you didn't make any conclusions

1499
00:59:45,030 --> 00:59:43,440
it's like it's not my job

1500
00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:45,040
i'm just supposed to present the

1501
00:59:50,950 --> 00:59:47,599
information here's the information and

1502
00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:50,960
you come to your own conclusion well

1503
00:59:55,589 --> 00:59:54,640
rita can uh tell us how people can

1504
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:55,599
contact you

1505
01:00:00,630 --> 00:59:58,480
and uh what you know what events do you

1506
01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:00,640
have coming up and uh

1507
01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:02,400
anything else you want to throw in there

1508
01:00:06,589 --> 01:00:04,880
sure the best way to find me is by going

1509
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:06,599
to my website

1510
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:09,200
soulhealer.com s o u l

1511
01:00:14,630 --> 01:00:12,880
h e a l e r dot com or just type in

1512
01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:14,640
you know rita louise in any search

1513
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:16,960
engine you'll you'll totally find me

1514
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:20,400
um you can friend me or like my facebook

1515
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:22,799
page it would be dr rita louise on

1516
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:23,760
facebook

1517
01:00:28,069 --> 01:00:27,040
or you can uh you know find me on

1518
01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:28,079
twitter which would be

1519
01:00:34,789 --> 01:00:32,319
psychic doc on twitter um

1520
01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:34,799
event wise let's see i'll be at the

1521
01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:35,920
history haunts and

1522
01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:39,920
legends conference november

1523
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:43,119
6th 3rd fifth i don't know the first

1524
01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:45,760
saturday in november

1525
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:47,440
i just know it's the first saturday in

1526
01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:49,200
november and i just show up

1527
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:52,400
um because this will be like my 13th

1528
01:00:56,309 --> 01:00:52,960
year

1529
01:00:59,109 --> 01:00:56,319
uh oh wow skating in that event so

1530
01:01:00,069 --> 01:00:59,119
um and that's pretty much it for this

1531
01:01:02,549 --> 01:01:00,079
year

1532
01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:02,559
um probably going to be starting to do a

1533
01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:04,480
bunch more writing now that this book is

1534
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:06,240
done

1535
01:01:11,510 --> 01:01:09,359
i don't know i might have to uh write an

1536
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:11,520
article about the dynamic of crazy

1537
01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:13,119
because actually that would be kind of

1538
01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:15,760
interesting yeah it would be interesting

1539
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:18,480
maria thanks so much for joining me i

1540
01:01:23,270 --> 01:01:21,280
really appreciate you coming on and uh

1541
01:01:24,309 --> 01:01:23,280
hope i can get you on a little quicker

1542
01:01:26,470 --> 01:01:24,319
the next time

1543
01:01:28,549 --> 01:01:26,480
well that would be great i would love it

1544
01:01:31,430 --> 01:01:28,559
because you know you're a great guy

1545
01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:31,440
excellent show and um we'll have to do

1546
01:01:34,390 --> 01:01:32,880
that

1547
01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:34,400
okay you take care and have a great

1548
01:01:40,549 --> 01:01:38,720
weekend you too thanks bye listeners can

1549
01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:40,559
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1550
01:01:44,230 --> 01:01:42,000
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1551
01:01:45,829 --> 01:01:44,240
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1552
01:01:48,390 --> 01:01:45,839
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1553
01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:48,400
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1554
01:01:53,349 --> 01:01:50,480
on a two-week hiatus

1555
01:01:54,390 --> 01:01:53,359
and we will return on friday november

1556
01:01:56,069 --> 01:01:54,400
2nd

1557
01:01:58,470 --> 01:01:56,079
now before i go allow me to leave this

1558
01:01:59,910 --> 01:01:58,480
with the listeners the late physicists

1559
01:02:03,109 --> 01:01:59,920
and cosmologists

1560
01:02:04,069 --> 01:02:03,119
stephen hawking once stated shouldn't we

1561
01:02:06,710 --> 01:02:04,079
be content

1562
01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:06,720
to be cosmic sloths enjoying the

1563
01:02:12,549 --> 01:02:09,119
universe from the comfort of earth

1564
01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:12,559
the answer is no the earth is under

1565
01:02:19,029 --> 01:02:14,640
threat from so many areas

1566
01:02:20,789 --> 01:02:19,039
that is difficult for me to be positive

1567
01:02:23,109 --> 01:02:20,799
well you i guess you can take anything

1568
01:02:24,870 --> 01:02:23,119
from that you want

1569
01:02:32,829 --> 01:02:24,880
i thank everyone for listening to the

1570
01:02:32,839 --> 01:02:37,470
weekend

1571
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:46,829
[Music]

1572
01:02:46,839 --> 01:03:07,080
so